i look at president obama as a perfect american, you can argue about the drones, as a citizen, the guy went to school, never broke a law, raised a wonderful family, a good husband, a good father, i don't think he never got a speeding ticket. he does everything right. >> so much in that speech, in the gettysburg address, i felt a thrill. >> i don't care that he interviews the president. you know what? he is a supporter. but my favorite lines, he has been a true partner in his marriage. the guy went to school, he never broke a law. may i remind him about the gang, and doing coke and a little blow. never did anything right, raised a good family, a husband and father, this guy does everything right. this is nauseating -- >> do you think chris matthews is skeptical about obama care? >> he actually telegraphed, he is going to say it is such a great idea they just didn't follow it up perfectly. he is going to blame everybody. >> anybody watching the interview will say it is the republican's fault. do they really need to shore up their left wing that much. >> at the end of the interview, dana,